Equal Education Unequal Pay

Equal Education Unequal Pay

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This week on Episode 55 of the The Charlie Tonic Hour, Charlie and I discuss fact that women still tend to make less money than men for working similar jobs with similar education. And this despite the fact women are increasingly out numbering men in higher education, as well as getting higher GPAs while in school. The infographic above does a good job of putting the facts together in a visual way but is it the whole story? Listen tomorrow to hear the rest of the story.

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5 Responsesto “Equal Education Unequal Pay”

  1. travis says:

    While I am not arguing the point of unequal pay, I’d like to see a chart that compares same degree vs. just *A* degree.

  2. Jon C. says:

    There are gender issues and pay issues, but this infographic is misleading at best. Major flaws in logic and reasoning are there at every turn. Their sources aren’t clickable, are barely readable, and with the exception of aauw.org, none of them are data producers. Not a single reference to the department of labor.

    Those issues aside, part of the problem is touched upon by a document created by one of their sources, aauw.org (American Association of University Women), which ponders why women, even though they do well in school, do not take advanced placement exams as often as men, nor do they tend to go into science, engineering and math fields.

    There are several good documents also on the department of labor website if you’d like to see the data there as well.

    There IS a gender gap, however, the points can easily be made with actual data and comparing equivalencies, instead of jumping to the false generalities, incongruous comparisons, and falsehoods by omission.

    I found this link quite interesting, and it raises a secondary issue of “Why aren’t more women going into STEM fields?” http://www.aauw.org/learn/research/upload/whysofew.pdf

  3. Ginny says:

    Travis and Jon I agree completely with the holes you pointed out in this graphic. It was presented as a starting place and we get more into the reasons behind the income inequality in the show. The difference in the degrees earned makes a huge difference. Thanks for commenting.

  4. Gintia says:

    There are two major factors that I don’t think you touched on in the show. The first is, who is doing what? When this type of information is presented, it is very difficult to tell what exactly their statistics are. The jobs that women tend to take pay less than the jobs men tend to take. (Related to Jon’s point about women being underrepresented in the higher paying STEM fields). Jobs that are historically female dominated are lower status and lower pay (think teacher, nurse, librarian, social worker) than they would otherwise be for the level of education, skill, and responsibility. Moreover, women are less likely to rise to positions of management. Randomly select a man who works in a female dominated field and the odds that he’s a manager are disproportionately high. So this can be a reason women earn less “across the board.” It is usually impossible to tell if these factors have been accounted for in the data collection.

    The other factor is salary negotiation. I have heard it said that this is an enormous reason why, in the corporate world, women are paid less than men for the same position. When the job offer is extended, men are more likely to negotiate harder and end up with a better starting salary, so percent raises through the years mount up higher too. Women are more likely to accept the first offer (which may or may not, as you note in the show, be lowballed due to the employer’s expectation that she will take more time off for family reasons), or to negotiate more weakly and thus end up with a worse starting position.

    There are additional issues with the infographic (like if we increased women’s salaries it wouldn’t necessarily increase GDP, it would likely reduce men’s salaries so that it balances without costing the employer anything more), but overall I do think it is a useful awareness raising tool. THanks for posting it and discussing it.


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